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Od nekadašnje centralne figure repblikanaca i zabaljvača ushićenih i na kraj uprevarenih glasača, do potpuno usamljenog i odbačenog gubitnika, koji je svoju propast ličnosti sam zgradio od temelja. Ne može se kult ličnosti, koju je konstruisao u svojo mašti, graditi na nekompetenciji, lažima i omalovažavanja drugih ljudi. Karma naplaćuje bezobrazluk sa neviđenim kamatama.

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Sleepy Joe je napisao/la: 02 jan 2021, 09:27 Od nekadašnje centralne figure repblikanaca i zabaljvača ushićenih i na kraj uprevarenih glasača, do potpuno usamljenog i odbačenog gubitnika, koji je svoju propast ličnosti sam zgradio od temelja. Ne može se kult ličnosti, koju je konstruisao u svojo mašti, graditi na nekompetenciji, lažima i omalovažavanja drugih ljudi. Karma naplaćuje bezobrazluk sa neviđenim kamatama.
You're fired!!!
i ja bi to mislio
al onda skonta da je ludjak, takav kakav jest,
doguro do toga da bude ej americki predsjednik
samo mu ovo sve sad nije bas trebalo :palm trebo je
(probat) bit insan, priznat poraz i dostojanstveno i
mirno se povuc. sad ce ga svi zaobilazit na kilometre
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Zanimljiv je ovaj transkript razgovora između Trumpa i državnog tajnika Džordžije Brad Raffensperger te šefa bijele kuče Mark Meadows i nekoliko odvjetnika, možda i među najinteresatnijim dijelovima je i ovaj....
Trump:.....I mean, look. Brad. We have a new tape that we're going to release. It's devastating. And by the way, that one event, that one event is much more than the 11,000 votes that we're talking about. It's uh, you know. That one event was a disaster. And it's just, you know, but it was, it was something, it can't be disputed. And again we have a version that you haven't seen but it's magnified. It's magnified and you can see everything. For some reason they put it in three times, each ballot, and I don't know why. I don't know why three times. Why not five times, right? Go ahead.
Raffensperger: You're talking about the State Farm video. And I think it's extremely unfortunate that Rudy Giuliani or his people, they sliced and diced that video and took it out of context. The next day we brought in WSB-TV and we let them show, see the full run of tape and what you'll see, the events that transpired are nowhere near what was projected by, you know —
Trump: But where were the poll watchers, Brad? There were no poll watchers there. There were no Democrats or Republicans. There was no security there.It was late in the evening, late in the, early in the morning, and there was nobody else in the room. Where were the poll watchers and why did they say a water main broke, which they did and which was reported in the newspapers? They said they left. They ran out because of a water main break, and there was no water main. There was nothing. There was no break. There was no water main break. But we're, if you take out everything, where were the Republican poll watchers, even where were the Democrat poll watchers, because there were none.
And then you say, well, they left their station, you know, if you look at the tape, and this was, this was reviewed by professional police and detectives and other people, when they left in a rush, everybody left in a rush because of the water main, but everybody left in a rush. These people left their station.When they came back, they didn't go to their station. They went to the apron, wrapped around the table, under which were thousands and thousands of ballots in a box that was not an official or a sealed box. And then they took those. They went back to a different station. So if they would have come back, they would have walked to their station and they would have continued to work. But they couldn't do even that because that's illegal, because they had no Republican poll watchers. And remember, her reputation is deva — she's known all over the Internet, Brad. She's known all over.I'm telling you, "Where's [name]" was one of the hot items ...[name] They knew her. "Where's [name]?" So Brad, there can be no justification for that. And I you know, I give everybody the benefit of the doubt. But that was — and Brad, why did they put the votes in three times? You know, they put 'em in three times.
Raffensperger: Mr. President, they did not put that. We did an audit of that and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.
Raffensperger: Mr. President, we'll send you the link from WSB.
Trump: I don't care about the link. I don't need it. Brad, I have a much better link —
Mitchell: I will tell you. I've seen the tape. The full tape. So has Alex. We've watched it. And what we saw and what we've confirmed in the timing is that. They made everybody leave, we have sworn affidavits saying that. And then they began to process ballots. And our estimate is that there were roughly 18,000 ballots. We don't know that. If you know that ...
Trump: It was 18,000 ballots but they used each one three times.

Mitchell: Well, I don't know about that.

Trump: I do think because we had ours magnified out. Each one magnified out is 18 times three

Mitchell: I've watched the entire tape.

Trump: Nobody can make a case for that, Brad. Nobody. I mean, look, you'd have to be a child to think anything other than that. Just a child. I mean you have your never Trumper...

Mitchell: How many ballots, Mr. Secretary, are you saying were processed then?

Raffensperger: We had GBI ... investigate that.

Germany: We had our — this is Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers talk to everyone who was who was there after that event came to light. GBI was with them as well as FBI agents.

Trump: Well, there's no way they could — then they're incompetent. They're either dishonest or incompetent, okay?

Mitchell: Well, what did they find?

Trump: There's only two answers, dishonesty or incompetence. There's just no way. Look. There's no way. And on the other thing, I said too, there is no way. I mean, there's no way that these things could have been you know, you have all these different people that voted but they don't live in Georgia anymore. What was that number, Cleta? That was a pretty good number too.
Mitchell: The number who have registered out of state after they moved from Georgia. And so they had a date when they moved from Georgia, they registered to vote out of state. And then it's like 4,500, I don't have that number right in front of me.

Trump: And then they came back in and they voted.

Mitchell: And voted. Yeah.

Trump: I thought that was a large number, though. It was in the 20s. The point is...
Germany: We've been going through each of those as well and those numbers that we got that Ms. Mitchell was just saying, they're not accurate. Every one we've been through, are people that lived in Georgia, moved to a different state, but then moved back to Georgia legitimately. And in many cases

Trump: How many people do that? They moved out and then they said, "Ah, to hell with it I'll move back." You know, it doesn't sound like a very normal ... you mean, they moved out, and what, they missed it so much that they wanted to move back in? It's crazy.
Germany: This is they moved back in years ago. This was not like something just before the election. So there's something about that data that, it's just not accurate.

Trump: Well, I don't know, all I know is that it is certified. And they moved out of Georgia and they voted. It didn't say they moved back in Cleta, did it?

Mitchell: No, but I mean, we're looking at the voter registration. Again, if you have additional records, we've been asking for that, but you haven't shared any of that with us. You just keep saying you investigated the allegations.

Trump: But, Cleta, a lot of it you don't need to be shared. I mean, to be honest, they should share it. They should share it because you want to get to an honest election.I won this election by hundreds of thousands of votes. There's no way I lost Georgia. There's no way. We won by hundreds of thousands of votes. I'm just going by small numbers when you add them up they're many times the 11,000. But I won that state by hundreds of thousands of votes.Do you think it's possible that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? Because that's what the rumor is. And also that Dominion took out machines. That Dominion is really moving fast to get rid of their, uh, machinery.Do you know anything about that? Because that's illegal,right?

Germany: This is Ryan Germany. No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County.

Trump: But have they moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them with other parts?

Germany: No.

Trump: Are you sure, Ryan?

Germany: I'm sure. I'm sure, Mr. President.

Trump: What about, what about the ballots. The shredding of the ballots. Have they been shredding ballots?
Germany: The only investigation that we have into that — they have not been shredding any ballots. There was an issue in Cobb County where they were doing normal office shredding, getting rid of old stuff, and we investigated that. But this is stuff from, you know, from you know past elections.
Trump: I don't know. It doesn't pass the smell test because we hear they're shredding thousands and thousands of ballots and now what they're saying, "Oh, we're just cleaning up the office." So I don't think they're cleaning.
Dio kada ga malo spušta, ali neda se Rummor j. Trump....On nastavlja po svom uvjerenju....
Raffensperger: Mr. President, the problem you have with social media, they — people can say anything.
Trump: Oh this isn't social media. This is Trump media. It's not social media. It's really not it's not social media. I don't care about social media. I couldn't care less. Social media is Big Tech. Big Tech is on your side. I don't even know why you have a side, because you should want to have an accurate election. And you're a Republican.


I onda obično nastavlja sa ponavljanjem ranije iznesenih tvrdnji.....Što obično praktikuje na masovnim okupljanjima sa republikanskim pristalicama
Raffensperger: We believe that we do have an accurate election.

Trump: No, no you don't. No, no you don't. You don't have. Not even close. You're off by hundreds of thousands of votes. And just on the small numbers, you're off on these numbers and these numbers can't be just — well, why wont? — Okay. So you sent us into Cobb County for signature verification, right? You sent us into Cobb County, which we didn't want to go into. And you said it would be open to the public. And we could have our - So we had our experts there they weren't allowed into the room. But we didn't want Cobb County. We wanted Fulton County. And you wouldn't give it to us. Now, why aren't we doing signature — and why can't it be open to the public?

And why can't we have professionals do it instead of rank amateurs who will never find anything and don't want to find anything? They don't want to find, you know, they don't want to find anything. Someday you'll tell me the reason why, because I don't understand your reasoning, but someday you'll tell me the reason why. But why don't you want to find?


Ostalo možete pronaći na linku....

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/03/poli ... index.html

Malo mi se čini da kroz razgovor sa Raffensperger.om želi da izvojeva neke glasove koji su mu potrebni, mada kroz optuživanje drugih za prevaru svijesno čini ilegalan pritisak ili neku vrstu ucjene.
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Novi Kongres je poceo sa radom.

Sutra izbori u Georgiji. U glasanju postom, zabiljezen je cak i
znacajan porast tradicionalno demokratskih glasaca, u odnosu na izbore u novembru.

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Hajde da mu damo još jedan "mandat" da ne pjeni, ali negdje u sudnici.
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Sleepy Joe je napisao/la: 04 jan 2021, 22:00 Hajde da mu damo još jedan "mandat" da ne pjeni, ali negdje u sudnici.
Pa ništa mu manje neće trajati procesi u najavi...
Kako te ego i sujeta ukopaju, pokazni primjer.
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A federal judge in Atlanta on Tuesday denied a last-minute effort by President Trump to decertify Georgia’s election results, handing the president yet another courtroom loss just one day before Congress is scheduled to bring the presidential race to an official end.

The ruling from the bench by Judge Mark H. Cohen denying the emergency petition brought the number of legal defeats that Mr. Trump and his allies have suffered since Election Day to more than 60. The challenges have spanned eight states and dozens of courts, and have become more desperate as the vote in Congress on Wednesday to formally certify the victory of President-elect Joseph R. Biden Jr. has drawn closer.
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Na senatske izbore u Georgiji potroseno 830 miliona dolara. :meha1
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U Washingtonu se zakuhava.

Trumpovi pristalice se sutra okupljaju na proteste u Washingtonu za vrijeme zvanicne ceremonije brojanja elektoralnih glasova u Kongresu. Neki su najavili da ce doci naoruzani.

Trump vrsi pritisak na Pence-a da odbaci zvanicne elektoralne glasove I proglasi njega pobjednikom. Pence sutra obavlja ceremonijalnu ulogu vodje zasjedanja Kongresa, ali nema ustavne ovlasti da ista ponistava. :meha2

Neko je nazvao sigurnosne agencije i zaprijetio da ce sutra avionom napasti Capitol Hill, "kao osvetu za Soleimanija".

U svakom slucaju, sve ovo je veoma veoma cudno i napeto.
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Demokrate za sada imaju lijepu priliku da naprave balans moći u senatu.

Ma sutra će Pence samo napraviti budalu od sebe, što mu je ovo trebalo. Trump njega u stvarnosti ne ferma ni 1%, svakako ga se nakon njegovog odlaska neće ni sjećati...
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Ako dobiju oba Demokrata, nece to biti balans moci, nego potpuna moc Demokratske Stranke, barem u sljedece dvije godine.

House of Representatives, Senate, White House

Sta to podrazumijeva, moze se raspravljati, ako se desi. Skoro je siguran trenutni pad berze, jer berza voli podijeljenu moc.

Zasad, nakon otprilike 50% prebrojanih glasova, oba demokratska kandidata vode, jedan za oko 105 hiljada, a drugi za oko 125 hiljada glasova prednosti.

Jos je prerano.
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Sad je vec razlika manje od 3000 glasova u jednoj trci. :valja

Ovo je za srcanog udara, sto se tice politicki osvijescenih Amerikanaca.
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New York Times procjenjuje da ce oba demokrata pobjediti 90%.

Fuckin' Amerikanci me uvijek iznenade. :valja

Mnogi se slazu da je Trump sabotirao ove izbore sto se tice Republikanaca. Ako se NYT prognoza ostvari, stranka koja se prekasno odrice ovakvog idiota je platila cijenu.
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Warnock (demokrata) je pobjedio, samo niko se ne usudjuje da prvi izleti sa objavom. 35 hiljada glasova razlike je, po svim izvorima, nedostizno. 95% glasova prebrojano.

Druga trka - manje od dvije hiljade glasova razlike. :valja Svi se slazu da je demokrata favorit.
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Dave Wasserman, najcjenjeniji strucnjak za ovakve objave, je vec proglasio oba demokrata pobjednicima.

On se jedini usudio.
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